You’ve lasted.

Now what?

In this featured conversation on What Healthy Couples Know That You Don’t, Dr. Johanna Herwitz, founder of Five Windows, joins host Rhoda Sommer to talk about:

• Why “staying together” isn’t the finish line—it’s the invitation

• The problem with assuming comfort equals closeness

• How high-achieving, long-married couples can reimagine their relationship—without starting over

• And what it actually takes to create a second marriage… with the same person

If you’ve outgrown advice columns and “relationship tips,” this one’s for you.

🎙 Listen now: